I was sent an email by one of my son’s old friends – really nice feller – but unfortunately one of the sheeple. Poor kid drank the kool-aid and fell for the whole thing. My response is interspersed with the original email below.
M***** (and by extension the rest of the folks on the original email),
Once again, Google is your friend. While both sides of this argument frequently spout and spew crap, this is veritable FOUNTAIN of CRAP. In fact, this is the most craptastic pile of crap I believe I have ever seen. My responses are interspersed with the original flaming pile of crap. Let the fisking begin.
Let’s keep a copy of THIS in our pockets for quick reference when speaking with our … ‘friends’ on the other side.’
You just do that…this might help you out…
After The 8 Years Of The Bush/Cheney Disaster, Now You Get Mad?
How quickly they forget…remember the eight years of Slick Willie? Here’s a few others – they all suck.
You didn’t get mad when the Supreme Court stopped a legal recount and appointed a President.
Ermmm, no. There had already been TWO recounts – with the same results both times. What was stopped was a third recount by hand. Try reading this:
Upon due consideration of the difficulties identified to this point, it is obvious that the recount cannot be conducted in compliance with the requirements of equal protection and due process without substantial additional work. It would require not only the adoption (after opportunity for argument) of adequate statewide standards for determining what is a legal vote, and practicable procedures to implement them, but also orderly judicial review of any disputed matters that might arise. In addition, the Secretary of State has advised that the recount of only a portion of the ballots requires that the vote tabulation equipment be used to screen out undervotes, a function for which the machines were not designed. If a recount of overvotes were also required, perhaps even a second screening would be necessary. Use of the equipment for this purpose, and any new software developed for it, would have to be evaluated for accuracy by the Secretary of State, as required by Fla. Stat. §101.015 (2000).
The above is from the Supreme Court ruling.
See? All the votes had been counted and recounted already. Old “I Invented Teh Interwebz” Gore was seeking yet another recount (by hand) and as SCOTUS pointed out, this potentially violates the equal protection clause of the Constitution (due to problems of subjectivity, bias, and inconsistent standards). Follow the link and read – it’s worth the effort.
You didn’t get mad when Cheney allowed Energy company officials to dictate Energy policy and push us to invade Iraq.
Cite, please? Neither happened. This is another one of the progressive side’s favorite tricks: “prove this didn’t happen…”. Nope, not gonna play – you prove it did. I’ll wait right here.
You didn’t get mad when a covert CIA operative got outed.
Seems that there just may be more than a simple outing – oh yeah – once “outed” she was SO worried for her safety, she decided do a puff piece in Vanity Fair. That makes a whole lot of sense. This was mock outrage if ever I’ve seen it. Methinks there is more than meets the eye here.
You didn’t get mad when the Patriot Act got passed.
Well, actually I think most of us did – but like most things that come out of Washington, DC – the Patriot Act was given entirely too much power…just curious: where was YOUR outrage when our current Democratic majority and pResident Obama EXTENDED the Patriot Act on February 25, 2010? Just wondering…
You didn’t get mad when we illegally invaded a country that posed no threat to us.
Not illegal. Done under UN mandate and authorization of Congress.
You didn’t get mad when we spent over 800 billion (and counting) on said illegal war.
First, see above (not illegal). Second, is the cost too high? Absolutely. Should have gone in, laid waste, and quit worrying about collateral damage. Get in, get the job done, get the hell out. End of story. Actually, while we’re at it, where did all the damn liberal war protesters from the Bush years go? Why aren’t they mad now?
You didn’t get mad when Bush borrowed more money from foreign sources than the previous 42 Presidents combined.
Actually I’ve been mad about that for years…Context? National debt? Yep, that’s always pissed me off – but guess what? It’s even bigger still now – wonder why?
You didn’t get mad when over 10 billion dollars in cash just disappeared in Iraq.
Actually, corruption pisses me off no matter where it originates.
You didn’t get mad when you found out we were torturing people.
Meh – not so much. I’m pretty ok with it actually – anything that gives us a leg up on protecting our guys and rooting out terrorists, I’m ok with. Just out of curiosity – do you suppose any of our folks have ever been tortured? How about beheaded? Kinda puts it in a different light, doesn’t it?
You didn’t get mad when Bush embraced trade and outsourcing policies that shipped 6 million American jobs out of the country.
Remember a pesky little thing called NAFTA? That was the beginning of the end.
You didn’t get mad when the government was illegally wiretapping Americans.
Well, yeah that still makes me mad. And guess what? The NSA is still doing it under the current Administration.
You didn’t get mad when we didn’t catch Bin Laden.
Getting mad isn’t gonna help on that – if he isn’t dead, I hope someone gets him someday.
You didn’t get mad when Bush rang up 10 trillion dollars in combined budget and current account deficits.
We did get mad. This was the impetus for the Tea Parties.
You didn’t get mad when you saw the horrible conditions at Walter Reed.
Actually, we did get mad – our heroes deserve better.
You didn’t get mad when we let a major US city, New Orleans, drown.
We let them drown? When your property resides at or below sea level, there are inherent risks. I’m not aware of a storm proof levee yet. I have riverfront property – do you think I’m going to build in the riverbottom flood zone? Nope, I’m gonna build on the high ground.
But anyway, “we” donated a metric crap-ton of our own money to Red Cross, Salvation Army, etc. How much did you donate? We also realized that the lion’s share of the blame belonged to the local and state government. Nagin and Blanco – maybe look there first?
You didn’t get mad when we gave people who had more money than they could spend, the filthy rich, over a trillion dollars in tax breaks.
Everyone received a tax cut under Bush. Obviously, they would receive a break as well.
”The latest data show that a big portion of the federal income tax burden is shouldered by a small group of the very richest Americans. The wealthiest 1 percent of the population earn 19 per cent of the income but pay 37 percent of the income tax. The top 10 percent pay 68 percent of the tab. Meanwhile, the bottom 50 percent—those below the median income level—now earn 13 percent of the income but pay just 3 percent of the taxes. These are proportions of the income tax alone and don’t include payroll taxes for Social Security and Medicare.”
Don’t even get me started on the freeloaders who pay no income tax, yet receive refunds.
You didn’t get mad with the worst 8 years of job creations in several decades.
Ummmm…9/11, the dot-com bubble and still I think Obama’s piss-poor (even including the so-called jobs stimulus) job creation record makes Bush’s look like boom time (Reagan’s).
You didn’t get mad when over 200,000 US Citizens lost their lives because they had no health insurance.
Since this is a Bush bashing piece, shouldn’t the numbers have been more like 360,000? At least get your bogus numbers straight. This is absolute and utter bullcrap. Even the studies’ own authors admit that their analysis contains flaws and gaps that render this conjecture worthless. I know people with health insurance that don’t go to the doctor – is that Bush’s fault, too?
Of course, thanks to Obamacare, MILLIONS of addtidional Americans will lose their health insurance – we’re already seeing that backlash.
You didn’t get mad when lack of oversight and regulations from the Bush Administration caused US Citizens to lose 12 trillion dollars in investments, retirement, and home values.
Lack of oversight and regulation?…and that was the fault of one administration? There seems to be empirical evidence that there have been other stock market crashes through the years – like say 1929, 1987, and yes – 2008-2009. The housing bubble was a known thing – it was simply a matter of time – and it ain’t over yet.
You finally got mad when a black man was elected President…
No, I got mad because the American people elected a socialist to the Whitehouse. While I admire the depth of your insanity, this is just wrong. Why in the hell do liberals make everything about race? WTF? Fer cryin’ out loud, the man is HALF WHITE and HALF BLACK. It’s not about his skin color – it’s about his agenda. I guess you never noticed when conservatives turned on Bush…a little research might do you good. Here’s a few links for starters. Just a sample. Take the time to read something other than the The HuffPo and the DailyKos and your eyes might open just a bit.
…and decided that people in America deserved the right to see a doctor if they are sick.
People have always had a RIGHT to see a doctor when they are sick, what they do not have a RIGHT to do is have someone else pay for it. The whole issue with the health care (ObamaCare) thing, is that they went about it the wrong way. The public said “NO” – and they said “YES”. What about tort reform? What about allowing opening up interstate competition among health insurance providers? How about fixing Medicare/Medicaid fraud? Since when can our government mandate the purchase of a good?
Yes, illegal wars, lies, corruption, torture, job losses by the millions, stealing your tax dollars to make the rich richer, and the worst economic disaster since 1929 are all okay with you, but helping fellow Americans who are sick…Oh, Hell No!!
Awesome – the grand finale – but I’m not quite done, yet.
To continue for just a bit – let’s take a gander at historical and projected budget deficits:
Bush and Cheney have been out of office for nearly two years now…pull up your big girl panties and let it go.
Obama, Biden, Pelosi and Reid have had the keys and have been driving. Don’t whine because conservatives in flyover country don’t cotton to what this crew has been doing.
I asked blog-friend Moogie P to review this before I posted. With her permission here are her comments:
“The New Orleans portion may be accurate, but a little shortsighted. I understand the “you take a risk by living below sea level” argument, but it doesn’t really hold water for me (heh!) because there are risks inherent to living most places — near fault lines, in tornado alley, on coasts subject to hurricanes, blizzard country, etc., so the “you pays your dollar, you takes your chances” thing doesn’t work for us. (Plus, actually, my particular plot of “dirt” is a whopping 8 feet above sea level! Heh.)
The “letting a city drown” happened as the result of a perfect storm (pardon yet another pun) — inadequate planning at the state and local levels for evacuating, or otherwise dealing with, those who either wouldn’t or couldn’t evacuate; inadequate planning for the staging of resources; the “everyone’s in charge” syndrome that saw the feds telling the locals what couldn’t be done, but competing with state and local authorities about what actually to do; confusion among joint emergency responders; and, certainly not the least — faulty design and maintenance of the federal levees that goes back to the 20s. And we must acknowledge that Katrina and her aftermath were truly unprecedented in scope, regardless of the “Hurricane Pam Exercise,” so, I, personally, cannot find “a” spot to point my finger.
All were woefully ill-prepared from FEMA to the Pentagon to Blanco (who stood her ground on a few issues that she actually should have stood her ground — such as the federalizing of National Guard resources, whose state HQ also downed beneath 13 feet of water.,) to Nagin (egad!) to Police Chief Eddie Compass.
It was — and still is — a lesson in progress. But to place all blame on Bush and “Brownie” for the unimaginable devastation and loss of life that happened here in 2005 is an exercise in lazy debate, as you note.
Plus — libs will never acknowledge that Obama, Biden, Pelosi, and Reid have had the keys since 2006. And I like the fact that you pointed out that the Tea Party kettle was placed on the burner during the Bush administration — it just boiled over after Obama took the wheel.
Don’t you just want to scream when they fall back on the racism mantra?!?!”
Y’all chime in…